Tuesday, March 13, 2007

Gen 4-6/Matt. 2

NOTE: please, I encourage you to to create a new post (like this one) for new topics/thoughts so as to 'containerize' discussion threads to refer back to. There will be days where I'll be behind and won't get to initiate conversation on "today's reading" and will rely on you to keep things rolling when Kevin Wood starts to slack, as he often does.

Did you notice it wasn't Cain's offering that offended God, it was his attitude - the result, sin. 'Get right or get left' (Song from my good buddy Tim Tyler and Group Theropy), right? I love Gen4:7 "... sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must master it".

There are lots of discussions that surround these first few chapters of Genesis. Gen4:14, who was Cain afraid of, 4:17, where did Cain's wife come from, etc.. my notes suggest two things 1) others on earth or 2) anticipation of rapidly growing population. What's your take?

As Jeff mentioned in his post , Enoch didn't experience death, nor Elijah.. how cool is this? Thoughts?

Matt:2 - I hadn't noticed in first reading that the Magi deceived Herod but escaped death (possibly) because they were warned in a dream to leave Bethlehem. And it was because of this that Herod gave orders to kill all boys in Bethlehem/surrounding area that were two and under.

5 comments:

Jonathan said...

Well, two things stood out to me in the reading from 3/14.

First, something that I just thought was interesting that is illustrative of God's perfection through symmetry. If you notice in Genesis 7 and Matthew 3, both reference 40 days and 40 nights. I know it may be trivial, but it is just a reminder to me of how God is detail oriented, and if he can take time to perfect the things that we do not even consider, then, hey, he has time to take care and concern himself with petty, insignificant me.

Second, in Genesis 9-28. What is your collective take on this passage? (Besides not picking on your father when he is drunk) I just found it interesting that this was in there for a reason, and the ramifications of this story were substantial for Ham.

I should begin a new post on this, probably, since this is from the 3/14 reading, but I don't have access just yet. ScoTT (spelled correctly, right?), I will get it to you soon (today, hopefully).

JEff said...

Jonathan,

I agree that the whole "naked, drunk" thing was a little weird. In a commentary that I looked at it talks of some possible meanings.

For instance, was it really necessary for God to include this incident of Noah sinning in the Bible. The author of the commentary suggests that God did this to complement Romans 15:4, "For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learner, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope."

Humans are constantly messing up, but we need to know that even a man who "walked with the Lord" was able to mess up and find forgiveness in the only One who can give ultimate forgiveness.

Did you notice that Ham is the one that saw Noah, but Canaan is who was cursed?

Scott, I too, would start a new post, but I don't see how I can be listed as a contributor. Do you need to approve it or something? I can send you my blogger info.

Jonathan said...

Great, thanks Jeff, I thought that was where I was going with what to draw from the passage. Thanks for the passage from Romans because that theme is what made me really hone in on the passage. It was so unique, and came out of nowhere, that I wanted to make sure that I did not miss something more.

Yeah, I picked up on that, too. (about Cannan)

C. Scott Baker said...

Awesome.. there is a 'how to' on the first page of blog.. but first (and I didn't know this until yesterday) I'll need you email addresses in order to add you to the list.

Sorry.. I thought if you signed in and I 'allowed all' that would work. And does, but only for comments.. not new post.

C. Scott Baker said...

oh.. send email w/your info to scott.baker@boltedup.com